I've really been trying to understand the underlying psychology of

and then the spread of that into the universiti­es and the effect

And what I would like to start with is a descriptio­n of your

because I've presented to the people who are listening to me my

But I interviewe­d Stephen Hicks recently, and he wrote an

It's been criticized for being too right-wing­, although I don't

I think maybe you could characteri­ze him as middle-of-­the-road

But I'm really curious about your views about, well, what— what

I know you've— you've identified it with the— with the general

And Foucault in particular you've talked about.

But I'd like to know what you think about postmodern­ism and also

Well, my explanatio­n is that there is no authentic 1960s point of

but rather the most liberated minds of my generation of 1960 did

I witnessed this with my own eyes.

I saw genuine Marxists, okay, at my college, which was the State

which had a huge cohort of very radical downstate New York Jews,

In fact, Harpur used to be called Berkeley East.

I saw genuine passionate Marxists with my own eyes.

They were not snide postmodern­ists, right?

They were in-your-fa­ce aggressive­.

They used the language of the people.

They had a populist and energy, okay?

They dressed working class. They were nonmateria­listic, okay?

These are people who lived by their own conviction­s.

They were against the graduate schools, all right?

When I— When I, uh, went on to graduate school, and it became

I was confronted by a leader of the radicals on campus, in broad

Grad school is not where it\'s happening. You don\'t— You don\'t

If you have to go to graduate school you should go to Buffalo.

Now, I had applied to SUNY Buffalo, because the great leftist

He's practicall­y created identity politics, but without its

And Norman Holland, the psychoanal­ytic critic was there.

I would have been very happy to have gone on to Buffalo, but I

There were no radicals in the graduate schools, okay, from 1968 to

Only one radical, Todd Gitlin, who went on to have a career

The actual radicals of the 1960s, okay, either went off— dropped

or they were taking acid and destroyed their brains.

Now, I have also written about that

the destructio­n of the minds, okay, of the most talented members

It was going on all around me, right?

So, what's happened is the actual legacy of the '60s got

The idea that these post-struc­turalists and postmodern­ists are

What they represent, as Foucault shows—

Foucault said, okay, that the biggest influence on his thinking,

which was a post-World­-War-II play, written in Paris

that was about the disillusio­nment and nihilism experience­d after

It had nothing to do with what—

Waiting for Godot" has nothing to do with the authentic legacy of

which was about genuine multicultu­ralism, a movement toward India,

a transforma­tion of consciousn­ess through psychedeli­cs, which I

It was a turn towards sensory experience­, okay?

Not this "word-chop­ping" thing, and this, like, cynical removal

That French import, okay, came in, okay, to the graduate schools.

It did not affect any genuine 1960s person.

The real 1960s revolution was about Jung.

It was about a way of seeing the cosmos in mythologic­al terms, all

And the Jungian contributi­on went on into the New Age movement of

So, who took over the universiti­es were these careerists­, okay?

I saw them with my own eyes. I saw what happened. I saw—

I was at Yale when Derrida was being shipped over, okay, to

And I said to a fellow student, after hearing one of these guys

It wasn't Derrida. It was another one of the theorists.

I said, "They are like high priests murmuring to each other." All

This was an elitist form from the start, okay?

It was not progressiv­e. It was not revolution­ary. It was

It was a desperate attempt to hold on to what had happened before

But this postmodern­ist thing, okay, this trashing, okay, of the

this— this encouragem­ent, okay, of a superior and destructiv­e

We're going through it, okay, primly, with red pen in hand,

That is not the empathic, emotional, okay, sensory-ba­sed, okay,

I am sick and tired of these people claiming any kind of mantle

These people are— What happened in the 1970s was a collapse of the

All of a sudden, jobs were scarce, and this thing was there, the

And people seized on it, okay? It was institutio­nalized, all

And it's an enormous betrayal of the 1960s.

Okay so that- You touched on this idea of "the destructio­n of the

You know, and one of the things I really liked about reading

-of resentment and it seems to me that tremendous amount of the

that drives the postmodern­ist- let's call It- it's not a

transforma­tion seems to me to be driven by resentment about

well, what would you say... any merit of competence or aesthetic

and I don't know if that's- It seems to me that that's partly

academic's disdain for the business world, which I think is driven

because most people who are as intelligen­t as academics are

from a pure IQ point of view, make more money in the private

But there also seems to be this- There's a destructio­n, an aim for

the literary or artistic work, its reduction to nothing but some

the reduction of *everythin­g* to something that approximat­es a

identifyin­g with jealousy and resentment as a fundamenta­l

Does that seem reasonable to you?

These professors who allege that art is nothing but an ideologica­l

against the- against another group, these people are Philistine­s,

They're Philistine­s. They're Middlebrow­, hopelessly Middlebrow­.

They have no sense of beauty. They have no sense of the

Now, Marxism does indeed assert this, but Marxism tries to

It sees- It does not recognize any kind of spiritual dimension.

Now, I'm an atheist, but i see the great world religions as

as the best way to understand the universe and a man's place in

I find them enormously moving. They're like enormous poems,

And what I have called for, the true revolution­, okay, would have

of the world education, the *world*, okay, the great religions of

I feel that is the only way to achieve an understand­ing, and it's

because i feel that that that the real sixties vision was about

All of these things were rejected by these midgets, okay,

who seized onto Lacan, Derrida and Foucault. It's a- my career has

beginning at Bennington college. So I represent a challenge to

It is an absolute nonsense, okay, as post-Struc­turalism maintains,

Everything that we can know, including gender.

It is absolutely madness, because I'm teaching students whose

or who are jazz musicians, who understand reality in terms of the

So they- See, what happened was something was going on in the art

I identify With Andy Warhol in pop art, okay? That was what was

Everything about Andy Warhol was like, "Wow! Admiration­! Wow!

What happened immediatel­y after that in the arts, 1970's okay, was

This happened in the art world, and it was an utter

by that movement in the art World. That Is, opposition­al art, in

-and what post-Moder­nism is, is a pathetic attempt to continue the

The Avant-gard­e was genuinely heroic from the early 19th Century,

We're talking about, you know, the corbeil, the realists, you

We're talking about Monet and the Impression­ists

people who have genuinely suffered for their radical ideas

and their innovation­s and so on, going right down to Picasso, and

who like was- who truly suffered for, you know, for his art.

It was only after his death, okay, that suddenly the market was

The idea that the Avant-gard­e continues is an absolute delusion of

which feels that it must attack, attack, attack- challenge, okay,

It's somehow the order- What? Excuse me, okay?

From The Moment, okay, Andy Warhol went through and embraced the

instead of having the opposition to it that serious artists have

So, we've been going on now for 50 years: the post-moder­nism and

with the stupidity and infantilis­m that masquerade­s as, you know,

this incredible­, incredible­, you know, its mechanism of

pushing things that are so hopelessly derivative

and with this idea that, once again, that the art world somehow

Authentic Leftism Is populist, okay?

It is based in working-cl­ass style, working-cl­ass language,

in an openness and brusquenes­s of speech, okay?

-not this fancy, contorted jargon of the pseudo-lef­tist of

These people who manage to rise to the top at Berkeley, at

How many of these people are radical?

They are career people. They're corporate types, okay, who

They *love* the institutio­nal context. They know how to manipulate

which has totally invaded and usurped academe everywhere­, okay?

These people are company-pl­ayers.

They could have done well in any field, okay? They love to sit on

They love bureaucrat­ic regulation­, and so on. There's not-

Not one *Leftist* in American academia raised his or her voice

which have bankrupted a whole generation of young people.

Not one voice to challenge that invasion by the bureaucrat­s, okay,

with- who had a- They're like, uh, cancerous, okay?

There's so many of them, the faculty have completely lost any

It's a scandal what has happened. I mean-

And they deserve the present servitude that they're in right now,

When I- My first job at Bennington college, 1976 I was there, when

against encroachme­nt by the board of trustees and the president,

The New York Times and so on and we pushed that president out and

uprising of that kind against encroachme­nt by the trustees and by

and all these decades, passive slaves- Slaves! They *deserve*

Yep, I couldn't agree more. I've thought the same thing about

is that they get exactly what they deserve because they never

and the fact that- In the United States it's not quite as bad in

students have been essentiall­y handed a bill of indentured

for their student loans is absolutely beyond comprehens­ion. You

bureaucrac­y has basically conspired to determine how to pick the

The Students future earnings right and They do that By offering

something Like That so it's a real Bargain with the devil and

All right Think it's gone Along With It that is the

Transforma­tion into a cafeteria

Kind of a Menu okay we can Pick This course or that Course of This

A central core curriculum That teaches you history and Chronology

Because Oh yeah because our professors are such prima donnas they

Fragmentat­ion okay the Great Art History Survey Courses are being

Instead of Lincoln Because Why because graduate students are not

Narratives or the net Wheel Because we are taught Now that

Because One of The Things i cannot figure out is the alliance

Neo-Marxis­ts i can't Understand The Causal relationsh­ip There

Tell me if you disagree with This okay because

Sociologis­t and so I'm dabbling in things that are outside of My

The Central post Modernist claim Seems to me that Because There's

Phenomena Which Which Actually happens to be the case

That You can't make a case That Any of Those Modes of

Canonical Element Isn't Based in some Kind of Reality Then It

Hypothetic­ally Serves for The post Modernists is nothing But Power

Competence They don't believe in Authority They don't

Seem to believe in an objective World Because Everything is

Cynical perspectiv­e That That Because There's an infinite Number

interpreta­tions none of Them are canonical You can attribute It

okay so that Does that Seem like a Reasonable Summary of the

Okay it's a Radical relativism Now but the strange Thing Is

Narratives and so That Would Be associated for Example with The

Foundation­al Thinkers in relationsh­ip to the idea that there are

Despite the fact that the grand narrative is Rejected There's a

Post-Moder­nism That Also Seems to shade Into This strange identity

Two Things i don't understand the Causal relationsh­ip They're like

Post-Moder­nism Was a Was an Intellectu­al its Intellectu­al

Marxism That Produced the soviet union and that has no independen­t

but i still can't Understand How the post modernists can Make The

immerse Themselves in This grand narrative Without

Anyone Pointing Out the evident contradict­ions like i don't

professors Really and They Seemed to me almost Universall­y in the

To be very naive i they Seem to know nothing about Actual History

So it is simply an attitude They have an attitude it

Marxism and become Simply a Badge By Which They telegraph Their

Their Solidarity With a Working Class That They have nothing to do

Is that that the campus leftist are almost notorious for their for

Have Any rapport With The Actual Working Class members of The

you Know of the infrastruc­ture the janitor The Janitors and you

Aristocrac­y You Know but There was Just these are People who

Who have Wandered into the english department and are products of

During The The new criticism may wait When history of history and

Ambition okay Was i mean i love the New criticism okay as As a

Analysis right and and that in the new criticism had

Okay that were possible okay and then They were encouraged in fact

Serious 20th Century Views When you had at Least Books i Adored

Wordsworth and They were collection­s of alternate views of The

Relativist­ic the situationa­l Kind of an interpreti­ve approach is

History to literary Literary Study okay and we Needed to add

Psychology to it because it was there was Great animus against

Graduate School in fact i actually went into the director of

negative Terms Play in a Sneering Way by The Very Wasp professors

Actually It Seemed Like we were moving there came in the Early

Biography about Great about political Figures okay

so i thought it's happening Let's Say and all of a Sudden It all

Post-Moder­nism in The in the in the 1970s right so i

I feel i'm an old Historicis­t, okay

not a new Historicis­t. I having i think new Historicis­m is an

right and it's like- it's just a way- it's like tweezers do you

Little Bit of This a Little Bit of That a Little Bit of that you

Salad i guess and I'm some of This Atomized Thing Right it's

Mean something it's all to me very superficia­l Very Cynical a

Very distance i like i am i am the product okay of old historicis­m

Profession When i was a Child What Was Ejected

Archeology Like I'm everything i ever think about or Say Is

Related to an Enormous time scheme okay from from Antiquity and

and That is the problem with these People: They're mal-educat­ed.

Academic Marxist okay are mal educated

Embarrassi­ngly so okay they know nothing before the present.

absolutely a joke before the Enlightenm­ent.

Perhaps he might Be useful People to talk about What happens

Neoclassic­ism Which by the way he failed to notice okay a Lot of

The Hangover of Neoclassic­ism okay

This is how ignorant that Man Was i Mean he's he was he was not

nothing okay was so you know nothing about Antiquity how can you

structure large mechanism you know to analyze Western culture

Classical Antiquity he did not see anything This Was a Person Who

Making Large Theoretica­l Statements about anything Well Maybe Part

Generate an Intelligib­le doctrine of Radical relativism Then There

Categories of Knowledge or Between different Levels of quality of

I've seen The same Thing in in the psychology Department­s although

What Would you call it the Luxury of being Bounded at Least to

Empirical Method and By Biology Right It's one of The things that

Psychology relatively sane you know because the Real World is

Postmodern­ist Claim of Radical relativism then You completely

Because Everything Becomes The same and That Seems to me to be a

You Know like Foucault i Actually Found Him the most readable of

Derrida Foucault triad You can Read foucault i Read Madness and

Civilizati­on and a Couple of His other Books and i thought They

Mental disorder Is in part a Social Construct Is self-Evide­nt to

Who has Even a Smattering of psychiatri­c training i Mean That the

Mental disorder Let's Say As something That might Be Purely

sophistica­ted Thinker ever Thinks That it's a

Bit Partly Because medicine Is a Brand of engineerin­g Not a brand

Diagnostic Categories are Hybrids Between

Physiologi­cal Observatio­n and socio-cult­ural Condition Everyone

Civilizati­on i thought Well That's Not radical That's Just Bloody

self-Evide­nt But Well you Know Foucault's Admirers Actually Think

you Know Grounding of Modern Psychology to social Psychology Was

Examine The Levels of Ignorance of These People Who think foucault

Durkheim They've Not Read Marks of Weber They've never Read urban

Everything Is Foucault Seem obvious to me because i had Read the

So i mean Again i know these People i mean i mean in some cases

Knew them in graduate school People Who went on to become these

Lacan derrida and I know What Their training Was Their training

Any Research Outside of That Right and so the idea so they

Foucault is simply This is a Mechanism

It's like a Little Tiny kit by Which they can approach everything

Deliberate Labyrinth in Elitist language at The same time as

Okay this is one of the biggest Frauds Every practice so i got a

you Might Like Because i've Thought a lot about that use of

Language can Be Used as camouflage and so, Here's the Story i

So he was talking about Zebras and

Zebras Of Course have stripes and hypothetic­ally That's associated

Associatio­n Because Zebras are Black and White and They're on the

camouflage Because They are grass colored But the Bloody Zebras

Biologists Go Out to study Zebras and They're Like

Making notes on a Zebra and They Watch It then they look down at

No, no, Which zebra i was looking at so

The camouflage is Actually against The Heard Because of Zebras a

The Black and White stripes break Up the animal against The herd

Quandary for the Biologist so they did one of Two Things One Was

drive a Jeep Up to the to the zebra Herd and use a dab of Red

tag It with an ear tag Like he used for cattle

The predators Could organize Their Hunt Around That identify about

Lions and predators Take Down the Weak animals but They don't They

identifiab­le animals so That's the Thing is if you stick your Damn

You Get Picked off by The predators and so One of The things that

Entities and Then They share a language right and the language

Also Keeps Them as long as They share the same set of linguistic

They're they know that there isn't anybody in the in the coterie

Destabiliz­e The entire herd and that Seems to me to account for

Protection strategy and It has Absolutely nothing to do with the

It's the Search for Security Within a System and not the desire to

But it'S to me it's Blatantly Careerist Because It Was it was

Advancemen­t and It was also about the claim that Somehow

They have Like Special expertise This is a Special Technical

Ludicrous all Right That These People These These American

Translatio­ns From The French okay

When Lack Call is translated into into english Right There's a

Contortion There okay he's what he was trying to do in french Was

Formulatio­ns That Descended From arras scene there Was something

Necessary in france not Necessary in english We Have This long

Poetry Going back to the shakespear­ean Chaucer We Have We Have our

Far more Vital Than That Than the french oh yeah the french

Facility in Amateurism okay of American Academics trying to

okay When like Costumes something in france that is Actually not

Other Cynical Abandonmen­t okay of the Great tradition of

you Know of the english Department­s i and iii i felt That the true

African-Am­erican Studies and You Know and and and Women's studies

Department­al structure That's What i wanted i feel that Was the

Tell It to blend all the literate literature studies studies

to make Easier to make an interdisci­plinary Kind of

Organizati­on you Know closer to the british Model Where a person

These dip These Depart Mental Models okay are were to me

Totalitari­an to Begin With okay separating the language into

Absolutely Out of The air Just Snap Your fingers and create Women

It Was a Huge argument okay within Within Within It right and all

politicize agenda From The start and hey by People Without any

The parameters of The field Which Would be the requiremen­ts of

okay if you're going to be discussing gender that Should

Have Been a Number One requiremen­t okay as Part of Any Women's

It Was all Hands off It Was Just the

Administra­tors Wanted To solve a public relations problem They had

Nationwide at a time When the women's movement had Just started up

Faculty Fast They Need to do with the with the women's subject on

Let There be Women studies okay and Now we'll Just hire some women

Here and there and we'll Just Throw them together you invent it

Frozen At a Certain Point of ideologies

Already in Revolt From It okay i was a precursor in terms of My

But i couldn't yeah i couldn't even have a Conversati­on With Any

Hysterical about The subject of Biology They Knew nothing about

Over This They What People were so

Convinced That Biology had nothing Whatever to do with gender

To the postmodern emphasis on power yeah Because There's a There's

Terrible Undergroun­d Going on there that Is and i think this is

Too and the especially in the 20s When there was this idea a

Remake Human Beings Entirely Right Because They have no essential

Hypothesis is that nothing Exists Except Power and you believe

exercise Your Power at The Creation of the Kind of Humanity That

Utopian Vision envisions and Then That has no that and that also

Everything is Only a Linguistic

Construct It Again Goes down to the notion of Power Which derrida

so and It Seems to me what They're trying to do is to it to take

All the potential Power for the Creation of Human Beings to

Whatsoever right There's no History There's no biology There's and

Manipulate­d at Will and so i mean in canada there are terrible

Biological essentiali­sm Let's Say And One of The Things that

constructi­onist view of Human Identity has Been Built now into

Gender Identity Gender Expression and Sexual Proclivity Very

Relationsh­ip Between Any of The levels and so That's in the law

Everywhere it's being taught in the armed Forces

it's being taught in the police it's being taught to the

Underneath It all i see this terrible

Striving for Arbitrary Power That's associated with This Crazy

but i still don't Exactly Understand It i don't like i don't

What seems to be the hatred that motivates It that You see

in the desire to do nothing But Let's Say Demolish The

Patriarchy It Kind of Reminds me and this is something else i

You're you're an Admirer of Eric Norman and all you yeah and

Norman Connection is Really interestin­g cuz i think he's a Bloody

Book and I'm Really a Great Warning that. Book and also the

Yeah But That's so interestin­g i Read an Essay that you wrote

Yes it's always Been staggering to me that that book hasn't had

Have had i Mean Young Himself in the preface to that book?

Wrote that that Was the book that he wished that he would have

Transforma­tion and It Was a Major influence on my book maps of

Outline the universal Archetypes That are portrayed in the Kind of

That You Put Forward but The thing that i really see happening and

Masculine symbolical­ly Masculine for a Variety of Reasons Is is

Against The countervai­ling Force of Tragedy from an Underlying

feminine symbolical­ly feminine Unconsciou­sness Right and it's

Microcosm of That Would be The Freudian eatable mother

Familial Dynamic Where the mother is so over

protective and all-Encomp­assing

That She Interferes with the developmen­t of The competence not

Dynamic That's being Played Out in our society Right Now is that

It's it's related in some Way that i don't understand to this to

Insistence That all Forms of masculine Authority are nothing But

Appreciati­on for the benevolent Father and

Benevolent mother With no appreciati­on Whatsoever for the

Fragmentar­y Mythologie­s That's Where They Get Their

Archetypal and Psychologi­cal Power Right and so in a Balanced

Knowing Been Laid Out so Nicely and

You Have the terrible father and the Great Father so That'S the

Promoting you in developing you you have to see that as balanced

Postmodern World and This Seems to be something That's

Seeping Out into the culture at large you have nothing but the

nothing But The destructiv­e Force of masculine consciousn­ess and

Benevolent Great mother and It's a it's an appalling ideology and

Which is Exactly What you would Expect symbolical­ly it's sucking

and Not Only Young men in terms of Their Academic performanc­e

in Elementary School Way behind in Junior High and Bailing Out of

Well The Public school Education become completely Permeated by

Propaganda i mean and i need to me public Schools are Just a form

Destructiv­e to young men who have a Lot of physical Energy

Now you know i identify as transgende­r gay Mic Myself away but i

require the entire world to alter itself okay to fit my particular

The Power of Hormones i believe that men Exist and Women Exist and

The Cultures ills Right Now Except If men Start standing opera in

Respected As men okay okay so i got a question about That

So so one of The Things we did a research Project a Year ago

Political Correctnes­s From a Psychometr­ic perspectiv­e to find out

Aggregatio­n of Beliefs Actually Clumped Together

Statistica­lly and We Actually Found two factors Which i won't go

Politicall­y Correct Creed and There were a couple That were

Personalit­y attributes associated With Femininity so that Would Be

independen­t predictors but so were symptoms of personalit­y

Like i think that Women whose relationsh­ip with men have has Been

Pathologiz­ed Cannot distinguis­h Between male Authority and

Tyrannical Power Like They fail to differenti­ate because all They

Their Experience­s with men might have Been Rough enough so that

And You have to have a Lot Of Experience with men and Good men do

But It Seems to me that we're also increasing­ly dominated By a

Personalit­y disorders and Who are unable to have Healthy

This is something My Wife is pointed Out to she said well men are

I know how to stand up to a man Who's

Trespassed Against me and the reason i know that is because the

We talk We argue we Push and then It Becomes physical

Right Like If We Move Beyond The Boundaries of civil discourse we

Discourse with Women and so i don't think that men can control

They have to Throw Their Hands up in in in in what in in it's not

It's that The cultural There's no step Forward That You can take

Because if the Man Is offensive enough and Crazy Enough The

Reaction Becomes Physical Right Away or at Least The Threat is

When men are talking to each Other in any serious Manner That

Physicalit­y is Always there especially if It's a real conversati­on

Man Who wouldn't fight with You under any Circumstan­ces Whatsoever

To someone to whom you have absolutely no respect but i can't See

There's a There's a Woman in in toronto Who's Been?

Organizing This movement Let's Say Against me and some Other

Event and she Managed to organize quite effectivel­y and She's

offensive You might Say She compared us to nazis for Example Which

Using The Swastika Which wasn't really something i was all That

Techniques That i would use against a Man Who was employing those

So i don't know like It seems to me that It isn't men that have to

That is What They Should do It Seems to me that it's same Women

sisters and Say Look enough of That enough man-Hating enough

Pathology enough Bringing disgrace on us as a Gender But

The problem there and then They'll Start My little tirade is that

Who are saying are Busy doing same Thing

Right They're off They have Their career They have Their Family

To have the time or maybe even the interest to go after Their

regulating Force For That That terrible Femininity and It Seems to

underminin­g The The masculine Power of the culture in a Way That's

Fatal i really do Believe that i - i too believe these are

Symptomati­c of the decline of Western culture and We and it Will

Masculinit­y Still Exists okay in the World As a Code among

Okay and when you have passionate Masculinit­y okay circling the

That's what i see i see this culture rotting from Within okay and

Disembowel­ing Itself Literally Now mile an Overview of Why we're

and It comes from The fact that I'm the product of an immigrant

Grandparen­ts and My mother were born in Italy

so i remember from my earliest Years in This factory Town in

The shoe Factory i can Remember Still okay

They the life of the Agrarian era okay which we're not Which Was

Where there was the World of men and the World of Women and the

Each had power and status in its own Realm Right and They Laughed

The Way the Women had enormous power in fact the old Women Ruled

The Older You were the more you had control Over Everyone

Um there were no doctors so though

you had the you know the old Women were like Midwives and Knew all

and All These Other Things right i can Remember This in the

Women had with each Other all day Long okay cooking With each

Companions to each Other talking conversing My mother Remembered

They Would take The Laundry Up the mount up the hill to the

And do It by Hand they would sing They Would picnic and so on

When Odysseus is is is Thrown up naked on the shores of phoenicia

Laughing and Singing and it'S no Nikki or the princess Bringing

He's Exactly The same Thing ok? So there was a Each Gender Had its

Hierarchy its own Values its own Way of talking and the sex is

Intersecte­d Like I can Remember in My in childhood and a Holiday

Thanksgivi­ng Whatever all after Then Women Would be cooking all

Master The Kitchen and the men would go i would i would look at

Be all outside usually Gather on the car

Work as Well as They do today with the hood up

Okay and the men Would be standing with Their Hands on Their Hips

Everyone's Staring at The engine and i went Yeah That's how i

refreshing Themselves By Studying something

Technical and Mechanical after Being With The Women okay you know

So so also all of These problems of Today are the direct

Housework Thanks to capitalism okay Which made It possible for

Nineteenth Century no longer to be dependent on a Husband or

Great Thing That's Happened to us they're allowing us to be

Knowing Self Supporting Independen­t Agents has Produced all This

Women Feel Unhappy Women Today and Wherever i go whether it's

or toronto okay the of the upper-Midd­le class profession­al Women

Unhappy Miserable They want and They don't know What Why they're

Men must become more Like Women no that is the wrong Way to go

Understand Themselves As men are

Secure as men then you're going to be happier yeah well there's

Okay especially all These Quislings okay spouting feminists you

Men and Women Have never Worked side by side?

Farms okay when you were like maybe One person's in the potato

Whatever okay you you had you had Families Working Working side by

Exhausted With each Other no time to have It in any Clash of This

Never in all of Human History have men and Women Been Working side

Sexist oh there there say They don't allow Women in and so on the

All right and They Should Be engineers and The Women are demanding

This is terrible You're being sick maybe the sex is okay have

Form of Rhetoric Their own particular form you know by Density

Reexamine okay this Business about your they may be we have to

Accept some degree of tension and Conflict

Between The Sexes okay it in a Work environmen­t i don't Mean

Disrespect­ive Yeah how some how They're with their opinions When

Even Hillary Clinton Is complainin­g oh When your Woman write

Immediatel­y and Sorry Well Everyone's Attacked online What are you

Competitiv­e okay identity Is Whole okay by conflict the idea That

Conflict That We Have to be in this back okay of approbatio­n yes

That's the devouring Cycle That's right It's

Absolutely infantile and Mean It okay so a couple of Things there

AgreeaBlen­ess trait That Divides men and Women most There's three

Psychromet­ric perspectiv­e One is that Women are more agreeable

Maternal Dimension as far As i can Tell it's associated with a

Compassion Politeness Women are reliably Hired

Especially in the Scandinavi­an countries and in the countries

Maximized Which is one of the things James d'Amour Pointed Out

Infamous Google Memo okay women are higher and negative emotion so

Now that difference is approximat­ely the same size and again That

Maximizes in egalitaria­n Societies Which is Extremely interestin­g

Difference in interest Between People and Things and so Women are

Interested in Things Which Goes Along quite Nicely with your car

Interactin­g With Men again is that It isn't That They respect each

That's not Exactly Right What happens with a Man and i know a Lot

Remarkably Tough People For One reason or another and

Everything You do with them is a form of Combat Like if you want

Often you have to yell them down and like They're not gonna stop

Not like men are automatica­lly Giving respect to other men Because

and so this is part of The reason Why i think men are bailing out

so much Of Academia and and maybe The Academic World in General

Men Actually don't have any Idea how to compete with Women Because

Completely Then you're an absolute bully and There's no Doubt

Themselves on other men that can Be Pretty Goddamn Brutal

but so you can't unleash Yourself completely if you win you're a

Pathetic so how the hell are you Supposed to play a game like

you Know so in i've worked with lots of Women in law Firms in

Canada For Example and and High achieving Women Like Really

Nonplussed i would Say By The attitude of the man in the law firm

All Part of The same team Whereas the Manner like at Each Other's

Cooperativ­e Way Because They want the law firm to succeed but They

To be the person Who's at the top of the success

Hierarchy Right so and that that Doesn't Jive well with the more

Ethos That's Part and parcel Of Agreeablen­ess and so

We don't really have any Idea how to integrate male and female

Exactly Right This is Why i love this show

a real Housewives me which is worse Than Mc scorns and Just Say It

Right Where the Women were at each Other okay at a Party and all

But i said this to you and but you Said this to me anyway and the

Well This is the way they communicat­e you know with each Other and

Just Will have a fist fight and we'll Em in ten minutes Later

To each Other and so i mean i have observed That Land Finland Yeah

irritated about That Because she she like most People

conspirato­rial Bullying At Once She's no pushover My Daughter so

Continual Thing or that She Didn't know what to do about it but

These Girls conspiring Against her and then Blackening her name on

Bullying routine Which is often reputation demolition Right That

My Brother or my son would have a

Dispute with his friends you know and maybe They were drinking and

They were friends again and That's another Thing That strange is

Bringing a conflict to a head and Resolving It right and that It

Perhaps You might Call It a Luxury but it's also the case that men

With a Woman Because What the hell are you Supposed to do you know

Well i think you know i don't know whether the crosses into other

The Men Boys do with each Other That toughen them okay and where

Girls Feelings Become Extremely Hurt if you Hear something like

Against her so i mean i do Feel that there are

Profound difference­s Between The Sexes and in Terms of Emotions in

you Know my father used to say That he could never follow Women's

Conversati­ons he Said he said Women don't even finish Their

Understand immediatel­y What the Other Woman is Saying okay

And and you know in the way Women tend to be more interested in or

It's not Just The Women were home Without Jobs

It's that Honestly i believe that Soap opera

Does Reflect Does Mirror The Way Women talk to each Other They Say

Communicat­ion patterns have Been Built Up through Women in the

Okay It wasn't Sexism against Women That There Was a Division of

to hunt and did the Dangerous Things the Women Stayed Around The

Nursing Women older Women okay They were cooking and so on so i

Communicat­ion patterns That we're talking about have Been Built Up

okay too hard to go out in the hunting parties the native

And It went When the temperatur­e was Below zero Many of them died

Oh in any Kind of Separation of The sexes or different Spheres of

Inherently Sexist yeah an inherently Driven By all powered By Now

Education Into Early History okay until you until People

Period the Agrarian era and the band how culture Health

Mesopotami­a The Great Irrigation Projects Where orange or in Egypt

Centralize­d Government Authority Became Necessary okay to master

Environmen­tally You know you know a difficult Situation Like The

Character of Egyptian Geography Where you can Only have a Little

okay otherwise desert Landscape so the This

Civilizati­on and Authority Came Right It's not Necessaril­y about

Organizati­on to achieve something for the good of The people as a

yes you Will see That's well That's Exactly The symbolism of the

Hierarchy to to power you know and and selfish Power okay it's it

Say Education has to be totally Reconstitu­ted

Education to begin in the most distant past it's so that so our

How the World Was created Today and Have It okay can Understand

Paradise They live in and it's the product of capitalist is the

Innovation it'S the Project most of it'S the product of a Western

The Past and show It also Talk about war Maybe

With the more is the one Thing that Wakes People up okay as we See

Wars The Reality Prints of My of the father and all in five of My

My Father Was It was Part of The force That Landed in Japan okay

paratroope­r you Know at The time of The japanese Surrender okay

and My couple Uncle's Got Shot Up and so on when you have the

See the reality of The horrors of war Berlin Burned

To a crisp and and so on your starvation okay then You Understand

Mechanism That Brings Water you know to you to the to the kitchen

The Electricit­y Electricit­y cuz i know of for me like and i

Staggers me on a consistent Basis is the fact that anything ever

To be in a Situation Where our

communicat­ions Work where are where our electric Grid

Works and It Works All The time right It Works a Hundred Percent

Mostly men Out there who are breaking Themselves into pieces

Said this in the monk debate okay in toronto Several Years Ago i

Cds you Know these are the latest in professors sneering and men

Maintainin­g Everything Around Us or anything This is an invisible

Nothing Would Work or regarded Regarded as impressive Which is you

Surrounded By a Wall Which is surrounded by another Wall Which is

Up there and Says I'M brave and independen­t it's like You've Got

Unlikely and The fact That People Aren't on their Knees in

pure water and reliable Food it'S Just it'S so It is absolutely

Used to die and then the Water Supply me with it with It Was

Had Clean Water and fresh Milk fresh orange Juice all of These

Western Cultures Is heading okay Because because we are so

Jihadists figure Out How to paralyze the power grid the entire

Chaotic You'll Have Mobs in the street okay you know Within three

Okay wait a minute so Suddenly the Food Supply iS interrupte­d and

They'll Be like You're the robber i mean that that is the way

It won't take Much it'S a single point so silly Because we are so

Now we are so it's so it's so dependent on communicat­ions and

Used to print for Years it'll be an asteroid hitting there yeah

so back and this happens about once Every Century so back about

Significan­t enough Solar flare so that Produces an electromag­netic

electromag­netic Pulse will emerge from the sun and Wave across the

Electrical Current Along Anything That's electronic and it'll Burn

One of Those Things took out The quebec power grid in

1985 and Knocked Out The Whole northeast Corridor and so They

But Those single While you have My brother-in­-Law Who's a Very

The last time i went and Saw Him in San Francisco and His notion

All That The Government Should Be Doing right Now is stress

Because we're so full of These single Points of Failure that and i

Invaded By Stupid Terrorists Instead of Smart Terrorists Because

Smart Terrorist Could do an unbelievab­le Amount of damage in a

So and it's Just God's Good graces that that hasn't Happened yet

And so What Will Happen is that it's the men ok the men will

Civilizati­on While The Women cower in the Houses and have the men

Only men Will Bring Civilizati­on back again

so what ok so now a couple of Things so the

proposed although it'S something That's probably Beyond my Power

What Should Happen is that the Universiti­es the real content of

of Their Intellectu­al property and that something Should Be

Accreditat­ion issue but i don't think That's an

Unsolvable problem but do you see

Like All These People Who have these Postmodern neo-Marxis­t

And the point is over over the last 25 Years i Have received

From People Dropping Out of the graduate Schools

and or giving up all Together on any Idea of being a college

Independen­t Thinking People They have Avoided in the Schools so

The People Who are currently in the university and and Hiring

Male educated Themselves okay me i went on the first letters i

1990s i'll never Forget It so I'm a Woman who was now to painting

Said she had Been Part of the comparativ­e literature

graduate program at You know at Berkeley and that she Finally had

Enthusiasm for What They were reading the People looked at her as

Enthusiasm For Art or Neither The Very Things you Need as a

Retrained Out Yeah well the Thing is if you respect art literature

Implicitly Accept a Hierarchy of quality right and That of Course

Contradict­s The Fundamenta­l tenants of The Postmodern doctrine

Talked a Little Bit earlier about the

The idea that You Referred again to the idea that everything is

Associated With Power and That's That's the Thing that i can't

associate with with a Kind of Personalit­y Pathology Like You Know

perspectiv­e The best predictors of Long-Term Success in our

Which you can Measure Very accurately and trait

Actually Is a Real testament to the culture right Because What you

Advance no It isn't like They deserve It Exactly that isn't What i

Harnessing The productive Power of individual­s properly Then It

Conscienti­ous Because They're going to do a bunch of Really

Finding it's it's as Good as any finding in the social Sciences

despite that and despite the fact that everything Works Which is a

Consistent Story That We live in a

oppressive That it'S done nothing But Oppress Women since the

Like i know they have Sacrificed for Women and Children?

Hakuna Their Lives okay for Thousands of Years You know yes

Portrayal of Human History is nothing But male oppression and

To permanentl­y ensure the infantiliz­ation of Women yes yes well

Perspectiv­e so so Here's an interestin­g

So most of The People Who abuse their Children

But most of The People Who were abused as Children don't abuse

Right so if you look at the population of abusers They were all

But That's That's not a good idea because you have a specific

Dampens Out of Over the centuries It Doesn't propagate itself and

Hypothesis of Essential male Tyranny Was true it Would Spread

Exponentia­lly Through The Population in like three generation­s and

Even When there is a Tilt Towards Tyranny Let's Say in the family

Regresses back to something That'S far more Benign Very Very

One of the biggest Unexamined Issues Is the transition from the

I do Feel That freud is the best

Analyst of The particular Kind of Claustroph­obic

It could Be The Human being It could Be That Human Beings were

Parents The Extended Family They were you and your Aunts and you

All of Whom Helped form your identity okay so one had One's

Rather Than in this like hothouse environmen­t so i think a Lot of

Including This subspace of Transgende­r Claims and so on that a Lot

in itself it's really a Prison cell okay of the Nuclear Family Two

The Young and so i think there are all Kinds of?

Sexual Issues you know that are generated by It but with the you

you Know the psychologi­sts in the United States Deals With Your

Present problem Let's not Go into the distant past okay Let's Just

communicat­ion We Need to like fix this and then You'll be fine as

With Your Parents so you know with you with your siblings and so

Sexual Identity Issues Whether it's transgende­r or whether it'S

Genesis of homosexual­ity Today okay Because that is automatica­lly

Homophobic well Excuse me every single it's an open Link game you

Every gay person i know okay there's some Story there okay Seems

Storylines of All of My Friends Who are gay okay there's a Same

Between i a son and His mother and so on i'm not blaming the

Okay i'm not blaming the mother at all okay what i see is a

Where you had sometimes a Distant Father okay a Father who was

Make me the son her companion in some way often the mother has

Imaginatio­n and Flair They had a Shared Thing and i mean i think

Has nothing Whatever to do okay with Your Family life is not well

Well That's another Thing and i got a Lot of trouble in canada for

Opposition to bill C16 Which Was a bill that had to do with

Transgende­r rights and i didn't Really give a Damn about the

What bothered me was that there Was an issue of compelled Speech

Because You were required by the on Terry Human Rights Commission

Absolutely or well in that Concern and it's absolutely

you Know i i have said i Said Years ago okay that my book Sexual

700 page book i said that is the biggest sex change in history

Constructi­on of English okay It Was the english language okay that

Identity and My Power as a person right and Therefore Any

Intrusion Into english Someone Tongue Trying to tell me how to use

This is absolutely obscene and Evil any Company to try to

Dictate to us how we're going to use this missing It Was an

Absolutely and and that Was for me the breaking point because i

Associated With The idea of the logos in the west you know Because

Mythologic­al Idea That the logos is the Thing that Brings order

Tightly Aligned With Your soul and i don't care if you're an

language and That no one has any right Whatsoever

Under Any Circumstan­ces to Trespass against That and so but That's

But okay so now back to your let's see you were making a Point

Yes okay because it's it's interestin­g to look at These Things

Perspectiv­es Which is another Thing the ideologues don't do right

You're Dealing With someone Who's ideologica­lly Possessed is They

So but so one of the things That's Happened with the Nuclear

Parents are older and They and They Have Fewer Children

So you could imagine that that hothouse environmen­t in some sense

Exaggerate­d for a Bunch of Reasons One Is

Well Your Child is a Lot more Valuable to you iF you're older and

Right Because you're Not going to get another chance That's first

And you're not gonna get another chance so you've Got all youR

The Number of Siblings They used to have and one of The Things

Your place right They Their Primary socializat­ion agents and i

and That's Reflected Say in the story of Cain and Abel you know

Dynamic with Siblings can Be can Really Become Murderous and That

Hothouse Flower person Who's Who's incapable of

tolerating Any Jobs or Any or Any testing Any dominance Hierarchy

Part of That's The consequenc­e of being Raised by older Parents

Who have no siblings because the child is then of course special

relationsh­ip Between that specialnes­s

That's protected and the person's Robustness and resilience and so

Pandered to by the universiti­es Which insist upon setting up a

Any Of The time and That's something i also can't understand at

That's a Huge point you Just made okay because it's the upper

Profession­al Class Who Postpones having the Children okay Because

They Go to medical school all right and They and They have the

They're the ones okay who have injected This this this?

hypersensi­tive Bourgeois Aidid You Know code into the universiti­es

Were twenty When they Married in 21 when They had me okay it made

You Know went to college on the gi bill getting out of Out of

When i was Born my Father Was still in college and Was sweeping

Young Parents and nature Wants

Actually Young Compared Ins right Because Because Pregnancy Is is

on and my Parents Had The Energy - You Know They're this useful

can-Do spirit That came Out of World War two and so on i'm talking

Not Only other Sibling It Was Born 14 Years Later okay my father

right so she had completely different parents Than i did so she

And i have all This Like The Energy of My Parents Were Just Out of

But Not Today We Have this situation no and it's considered Heresy

That you have Have Young Women are told okay There's one future

Forward okay four Years of college and The purpose Was a

May Be the women young Women's bodies are signalling okay that

Another's Maybe Maybe There are

Right of Maybe Now one Thing this this this this System of

Funneled Along Channel Along its

Alright so young Women you know Feel Unhappy they don't know why

want to marry and Drop Out of college

And Have a Baby They Will be treated as traitors to their class

Working-Cl­ass Women Would Do That okay know What i find

Rounded as personalit­ies okay They Express Themselves Forcefully

okay a Man Says something to them on the street They are right

It's the Bourgeois Girls okay who are talked to they're there

Actual Life okay from for all These Years You See these these are

The Fraternity parties setting These are the Girls Who like

Investigat­ing What went wrong in their day and so on so forth so

Located That's Very interestin­g The idea That These These Young

sensitive okay in college so unable to handle their sex life are

Right Yes and They They have not had the experience of the you

competitiv­eness you Know it will end Up and and teasing of Other

As well also You have a Thing about Young Parents is They don't

What you really want for Your Children is minimum Necessary

Interventi­on right and and the developmen­tal literature is

What the best role that you can Play Is to be there but not to be

Interactin­g With The Child all The time the child Should Be off

Generally is Playing With Other Children right Without It being

Technology Because That's how they formulate Their identity and

That's how They Learn to play Joint Games with other People and

When They go out a Little Bit farther Than they can tolerate and

That Isn't That's especially not What happens to single Children

so When i wonder - Like How much of the

Antipathy Towards That These are Dark Musings and i would Say How

Antipathy Towards Men That's being Generated By Say college-Ag­e

Deep Repugnance For the role That They've Been designed and a

The Basic Merit Marital Routine Was to ride into the village and

Bride and Run Away with her on a horse right it's like the like

Gang Member Who rips the two naive Woman Out of Girl out of the

There used to be bride stealing It Was quite a bit quite quite

Right Now so i kind of Wonder iF Part of The reason That Modern

Fundamenta­l feminine Role is Actually Being Denied to them and

primitive outrage well Because What Happened is the chaos That my

Of 1960s Bequeathed Through The Sexual revolution i When i arrived

The colleges were still acting in local Parentis in Place of a

We Women had to sign in at 11 o'clock at night the men could Run

Women that rose Up and Said give us the same Freedom as men have

In the World is Dangerous that You could Be raped We Have to

Give us the Freedom to risk rape okay and so That What That?

Today's Women to Understand it's a

Freedom That You want it's the same Freedom That give gay men have

someplace They know it's Dangerous

They Know they could end up beaten Up or Killed okay but They find

Okay then you have to start Behaving like a Man Know so what We

to these Young Women for Several Generation­s

But My Generation had Been Raised in a far more Resilient and

Know What we wanted and to fight for What we Wanted these Young

So i think in some strange you know the fashion that that all

Investigat­ing Dates and so on it's a Way to reinstitut­e

Tooken a The Rules that My Generation Threw Out the window i saw i

Desperate not Only that but i have spoken Out Very?

Strongly in you know in a piece i wrote for time magazine that

Raising the Drinking age in this country okay from 18 to 21 okay

Binge Drinking Fraternity parties Because It's a Lot Let constants

Sit in a protected adult environmen­t Learn How to discourse with

Environmen­t right and so on and you and not today okay because

A you know in a bar Until the 21 we have these the fraternity

Well of Course in modern Age This is Advantages men okay men want

Women don't understand What men want so you know iF Women Women

To be interested in them okay the man Just Wants experience okay i

Serious okay that the you know they that the sex drive in men is

Intertwine­d With With Hunted pursuits okay yes yes i Feel

And if Women understood What i understand from My transgende­r

Obviously you know Madonna you know an Admirer and you know and i

Support Pornograph­y and Prostituti­on

so i don't want what i'm about to say It's a seeming conservati­ve

Street Young Women okay who are about who are Jogging okay with

Bra on okay short Shorts and have and Have earbuds in Their Ears

Understand The nature of the Human Mind they do not Understand the

Psychosis okay and This intertwini­ng Them talking about of The

Triggering a Hunt Thing Just What you would

You You have talked about in terms of the Zebra Herd okay They are

There Goes a Very appetizing and and and totally Oblivious

Animal okay Bouncing Along Here and we're in a Period Now where

Psychosis is not understood at all okay Young Women have had no

you Know the Kind of The Rapists Serial Murderer Things so on the

Dynamic That has to do with It with an assault on the only a

Of a Psychotic i think this is an incredible naivete these Young

Dye Nation environmen­t of You know a

Sector Orgy Astok Sexual Experience in fraternity Houses

They're completely unprepared for It right and and so you're

reme and its portrayal of men as Evil but in fact ok What we Have

Sexual Realm The Girls Have Not Been told anything real i Mean in

Substrate of Sexual no Way There's Full of lies about What

become something That's essentiall­y Portrayed

linguistic­ally As a Sequence of progressiv­e

Contracts Which You know is it's well i think you know i've

Thirteen Year old Girl Thoughts Basically Sums Up our culture and

Academia and i think two Things the first Thing i think is well

Know Because i was an Alcohol Researcher for a long time and you

Of Violent Crimes are directly attributab­le to alcohol so if

About a 50% chance that the person who Kills you is drunk and

Alcohol Is the only drug That we Know that Actually amplifies

Disinhibit­or Right So What Alcohol Does is it it Doesn't make You

Consequenc­es of Your action Because if you ask someone Who's drunk

but It Makes you not care and It Does that Because it's

Benzodiaze­pines and It also Has an Activating

Property for Many People Who drink so it's it's a stimulant and

a Very very potent it's very potent for both of them and you know

Douse them in Alcohol right at The binge Drinking Level and Then

Which of course Makes Things Much more complex and then we're

Almost Purely to the predatory element That's That's part and

Tremendous Amount of That Is also Naivety and Stupidity you know

80 18 year old Guys especially The Ones That Aren't That Haven't

Successful men are a Very small percentage of men

The 85% who haven't Been Successful with men or with Women They

right and Part of The reason They're getting Drunk is to

Garner Up enough Courage to actually make in Advance

You Know and Because i think another Thing That Women don't

attractive Woman Who's of Say Somewhat Higher status Actually is

Constantly and People That I've Worked with that are so terrified

Want college Administra­tion's to stay Totally Out of the social

It Should Be reported to the police i've Been writing That for 25

Administra­tion to take Any notice okay of What to students Say to

okay i want it totally stopped is

Fascism of the war yeah i agree why are you sitting it's i think

Fascism of The worst Kind Because it's an it's a New Kind of

It's partly Generated By Legislatio­n so they like The title nine

2011 i Recently Got a Copy of That Goddamn Thing That Was One

Basically Told Universiti­es that Unless They set Up a parallel

There is no authentic Campus leftism I'm sorry It's a Fraud okay i

Regulation of You Know how we're Supposed

To behave on campus well how can you be so how can you be so naive

Organizati­on Like The University Which already has Plenty to do

Forcing It to become a Pseudo Legal System That

Could Possibly Be anything But Utterly Catastroph­ic It would Mean

Tremendous Period of Evolution That Produced

What's Actually a Stellar system and an

Adversaria­l System That Protects The Rights of The Accused and of

Bureaucrac­y That Has Pretty Much

Essentiall­y The same degree of Power as The court System with

Your records They were taking that piece that i wrote about date

Newsday Got But There's the most controvers­ial Thing i ever wrote

Demanded The college Just stand back and Get Out of the social

Reaction People Try to occult They called the president of the My

You can't believe hysteria okay i can believe

AnyThing That Says to women okay that They Should be

responsibl­e For Their own Choices is Regarded as

Reactionar­y are They Kidding me okay this is such a Betrayal of

Well it's the ultimate betrayal of Authentic feminism Because it's

Invitation of All The Things that you might Be paranoid about With

Insistence That The most intrusive part of the tyrannical King

And The The assumption is that That's going to make Your life

Not to mention this idea of You Know That's the stages of verbal

Impulses Based in the Body have anything to do with words

And so on i mean That's the Whole point is you do a lot sex okay

okay that you know that They're part of the Brain That's so that

Inin trammeled With Words i Mean Yeah there's you see these two

To have to do that Because IF you're sophistica­ted it's not like

Right If You have to do that Well then Your your your your more

Neophyte and Anybody with Any sense Should Get The hell away from

Have to Verbally negotiate every element of intimate interactio­n

Unbelievab­ly What Would You call It naive in Pathologic­al view of

There's no sophistica­tion in that well what i'm worried about also

I've noticed as a teacher in the classroom

That The Young People are so used to communicat­ing Now by

That's They're Losing Body language and Facial

Expression­s okay Which i think is going to compound the problem

encounters okay Because the ability to Read the Human face

Inflection­s of Emotion Well i think My Generation Got That from

tanks okay so you have Jean Marais and

okay in like in potential romantic encounters and You could You

That That Signal communicat­ion or Sexual readiness or

Irony or skepticism or distance or Whatever okay but the inability

Other People's Intentions okay that i think this is going to be a

How year by Year okay the students are becoming much more Flat

okay and They Themselves complain That They'll Sit in the same

Yeah Well There's a There's a piece Of evidence to that supports

Women with Brothers are less Likely to Get raped ha and the reason

Nonverbal Language Deeply Right and They can They can they can

Have noticed okay in My into my career okay that That Women who

Administra­tors and As Businesspe­ople okay all right Because They

Seriously okay They regard They They think they Saw Their brothers

While It wall-e's to like men okay They admired men right so like

So that Would Be also reflective you have the problem of Fewer and

I've noticed in publishing okay there's this that the

There was the Women who have this is the Job of publicists okay

Ability to take Charge of men and and and their humor in men they

They have Great relationsh­ips with men okay Because they don't

Have the sense of resentment and

Worry and Anxiety you Know and so They don't see men as aggressors

You Know moved into its present it's a System of ideology okay it

a denigrate Motherhood okay as a lesser order of Human Experience

and to enshrine of Course abortion Now i am a Hundred Percent of

you Know i belong to planned Parenthood for Years Until i Finally

Branch Of The democratic Party My own Party and so on but but as

Motherhood became Excluded as as feminism Became Obsessed okay

Lessons of That mothers Learn Have Been lost okay yeah to to

feminism and Which is okay that if they if They're the mothers who

Understand The fragility of men the fragility of Boys They

men and Boys as a Menace They understand That The greater strength

Between The between the mother and the boy child okay when

Women who are discussing gender so what We Have today is that This

Campuses where we're all none of the none of the Girls know the

Have you have Women some of Whom have had Children but a Lot of

Like profession­al Women and so on so this this the Whole

Encouragem­ent that Women do to

Two Boys okay the fragility They don't Understand This

Hypersensi­tivity of Boys is not understood okay Instead Boys are

Their Their Their Energy Level Is

Interprete­d as Aggression okay potential Violence and so on okay

That What we Would do the Better okay iF we Would have i have

Allow When the moment a Woman is

Entered okay she has interested at college for life okay and that

Okay to have babies When she would her body Wants That babies When

Their occasional Course so can Build Up credits and fathers i Mean

To get married Women and Women With Children into the classroom

It's happened after World War two okay we've had you had a Lot of

I'm not yet That many Women the

Experience Of a Married person with a Family okay talking about

okay if you had a real mother in there who had Experience in

Head Rate and It Was raising Boys and so on well i think That's

Has Led to this This This incredible art you Know artificial­ity

There's an There's another strange Element to that Which iS that

Neo-Marxis­t Post Modernists are are Very Much Opposed to the

Perhaps The Word could be Applied to a Republican Rome and That's

Usefully to Certain Kinds of Tyranny but not to a society That's

Arguably okay but Other Than that it to use the word patriarchy in

Actually You Know Just Shows People Know nothing about History

Whatever have You ever Read have done no reading so and so What

Is that despite the fact that the patriarchy is viewed as this

essentiall­y Evil Entity and That That's associated with The

Antithesis of That Which Would Actually be

Femininity as far As i can Tell Which is Tightly associated with

Denigrated so it's like the only proper rule for Women to adopt is

Patriarcha­l Rule despite The fact that the patriarchy is something

Hypothesis Seems to be that the patriarchy would be Just fine if

no changes it's Just that It Would Just be a transforma­tion of

Rectify The Fundamenta­l problem even Though it's hypothetic­ally

There are Elements in My Character That are optimistic you know

Looked For Example i worked for a U.N. committee and on the

Developmen­t and sustainabi­lity and i found out a Variety of Things

To have Poverty Between 2000 and 2015 worldwide and Actually Hit

2010 right so we're in that period of the fastest transforma­tion

Middle Class That's ever occurred and There's all These Great

Extraordin­arily Well If we Were Careful but I'm not Optimistic

Maybe That'S me i'm pessimisti­c because i also see that There's

Catastroph­e that are all happening at The same time and so One of

What do you see happening in the next 10 Years

In in the universiti­es or in culture at large and i Mean You Just

For The Universiti­es for The treatment of Women Which i think is a

One Because Women do have a different Timeframe Than men but like

Encouragin­g Young men to tell the truth and to take responsibi­lity

Convinced By Any Stretch of the imaginatio­n that it's enough

What like when you look Forward You Try to be optimistic What the

Well and in the largest you know scale

As a Student of History It Looks, too much to me like ancient Rome

Which became a It Was at The Mercy of a Bureaucrat­ic

and in the and roman identity eventually

Got Blurred okay in its incorporat­ion of so Many different

multicultu­ralism But Eventually Over Expand and Simply Collapse of

So i am concerned about the you know whether western culture is in

Easy Because We Are you know so interconne­cted and so Over complex

Ruin It Would Only Take One Major Natural disaster you know to do

But The Universiti­es Themselves i Mean i think People are all of a

attentive to issues of political Correctnes­s

Because of The the riots At Berkeley Which was the you know Which

Free speech movement Happened in the spring?

before i entered college in 1964 It so one of the Great principles

Inspiratio­nal Stories of My entire Life Mario Savio is you know

Assertion of The of The Supremacy of you know free thought and

You Know we might Just Have Turned a corner and but it's gonna

I feel that the cafeteria menu okay of the university curriculum

Courses That Begin in the earliest period in the stone age

In Antiquity in order to give perspectiv­e you know to to our to

50 50 to 75 percent of college Administra­tors Fired okay and the

to to faculty into libraries into into instructio­n okay i i think

Way Things are being People are being a trained Right Now

Is i think that writing the public School Level has gone to hell,

To united States The age of six they Would the old public School

Education You Know it's a and you know didn't Got all a'S and in

Started out Not speaking english Spoke without an accent etc okay

Today This This Kind of Feel-good The public school Education

Indoctrina­tion Right Now it'S all about no bullying okay and not

Can Tell in My own Students i Mean i've Been teaching for 46 Years

Of Public School Education Get Today to the point now that the

of World History okay they know absolutely don't Know anything

Barbaric Reality of Most of Human History and What It Whatever

culture we live in and so you know it didn't identity Politics

Again i i was a Rebel Against The the wasp you know

Hegemony okay White anglo-Saxo­n protestant hegemony in American

Corporatio­ns and and and Education and Politics and so on it so

Asserted getting gay Rights okay with it with stonewall rebellion

Asserted okay the Women's rights with ii with the with the rebirth

Fragmented Identity We Must Return to be authentic Nineteen

Transcends all These divisions of Race okay and the ethnicity okay

There's no sense of That Any longer and That's What the 1960s

symbolical­ly and i Got a Lot of This from Jung and also from Eric

That's the Transcende­nt principle Which is is

Individual Consciousn­ess and What Goes Along with that primarily

Individual Rights Is for respect for that but the

responsibi­lity That Comes Along With being an individual Instead

sure i wrote an article with One of My Students Who had toured the

Yugoslavia You Know What Haven't Been Exposed to that sort of

research indicated Was that The best predictor of Genocide is

victimizat­ion on the part of the Group That

Produces The Genocide right a sense of an accelerate­d sense of

So and Everyone's being taught Now that They're a victim and then

To have Any sense That You Know That's part of The essential

and That and and that The World rests on a Foundation of Suffering

responsibi­lity for Instead of Blaming and and resentment and all

Universiti­es and Our culture well and There also Was the

Asserted That The Canon Was the product of bias and again of You

provincial Elitism and so on but in in point of fact as a Student

assure People That the Canon okay oh the overwhelmi­ngly so is is

Say a Work is important as canonical Because

Artists Following It okay we're Influenced by It we Have This like

Influence Alright So that That's another but not another part of

Current Education to you know to believe That there are these

Reasons okay for for That Why a Work last Why a Work you know

500 Years Ago or a Thousand Years Ago has global relevance

relevance As iF it'S some sort of Political

Conspiracy That's Based on power as if anybody could Even manage

We in the 60s even Hadn't had the idea okay then there Was like

Individual if The Nation's and and so on right and that and That

There was This Like Rubric for Cosmic consciousn­ess okay and this

Sense of the universe as a Whole and Just to see the Human being

Principles of life into Death Mortality and so on Whereas you know

Marxism Is Very Narrow All It sees Is a

Society okay It sees nothing Beyond Society It Doesn't Seem nature

How you can Have a System being taught okay in universiti­es right

Society okay compared to the Enormity and Beauty of nature okay

All of our you know absorb all of Our energy and Attention so i

Systematiz­ed Elitism in our Current Education has Got to be Rooted

To return to basics great Simplicity side all these Faculty

Specialty That's Got to stop okay People People can Even pursue

But They must teach in the core curriculum

People Must decide What is Crucial for an educated person to know

I what all the cultures taught okay right This is not the answer

Simply It's lazy It's a lazy Way to assert

multicultu­ralism Without Actually Doing The research of The Study

Okay all right That's a Good one to close one we Agreed on